Are you of the opinion that it is unfair for them to tell us that a game is due out by a particular time and then to not follow through with it, or are you of the opinion that it is better to release a bug free first version when it is ready rather than releaseing something with a few bugs that need to be fixed through updates?

Better to play this game without any bugs so im willing to wait for it a bit longer. There are some good zombie mods out there anyways which can i play while waiting for the game, like Zombie panic , Brainbread etc etc.

I'm not disappointed at all because I actually listened to the fact that it was a target date not a concrete release date.
I strongly agree with them not releasing it until it is done. Its the best way to do it IMO. The only improvement to their strategy would be to not have a release date at all (like the BM team has done).

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That's very difficult, I think, for developers to simply not have a date (either target, or release). Gaming has become such a huge industry with such huge amounts of money changing hands that publishers have started to demand dates from the developers. I'm sure that all devs would rather say (when question on when the game will be ready): "When it's ready". It's the suits who force the announcement of dates and cause the critics to start howling, and who do they howl at? Devs.

Always blame 'The Man' because it's usually His fault.

LoL. True that. Damn suits. Oh well... One day I might be a suit so I better not pull the piss lest it come back around to bite my on the ass.

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I don't mind the delay if it means we get a better product in the end.

Yeah I would rather get a really well polished game, with a bunch of content and have to wait a little longer, than something buggy and not as fun. I just hope it comes out this year.

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In their L4D preview the guys at Shacknews had this to say about the delays:

As can be expected, there is a significant amount of work left for Turtle Rock and Valve to do between now and late summer. Aaron and I only experienced two of the game's four overall scenarios, and we were told that the zombie-controlling side of the game was not yet ready to be shown. Load times need to be optimized, as switching from map to map resulted in a lengthy wait. Though the game ran smoothly with a large amount of zombies on-screen, it would occasionally slow to a crawl for no discernible reason. Its user-interface is very much a work-in-progress. - Chris Faylor

Though the game is still very unfinished--animation and sound bugs, and the occasional curious gameplay quirk, pop up from time to time--the hardest work, building that memorable experience, is already done. - Aaron Linde

Not too disappointed either, would rather have a finished game which is where so many developers go wrong and Valve are known for making finished game, so it's all good imo.

The only thing that got my back up is the way they went about it. We could have known alot sooner to avoid getting our hopes up, but I guess that's where the fans get sucked in and fuel the hype machine :/

I really don't care if it comes late, so most of the bugs are gone. I will just be playing CS Source and TF2 Until it comes.

Amen.

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I'm pissed that they are delaying it, but I know it is for the best.

However....a demo/beta would make me less pissed

Is the Zombie Panic Mod any good?

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Its not bad. I got bored of it fairly quickly.

Its too lopsided against the zombies at first and then as the game progresses it tips to be biased against the humans.

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I just tried it and it sucks.

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Do I need Hl1 or 2?

Cause i wanna try it.

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Most mods only require SDK Base.

Zombie Panic will require HL1.
Zombie Panic: Source will require SDK Base and/or HL2

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You only need source sdk base I believe.

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pisses me off to shit.

2 months to make levels, all that time for last AI changes? new sounds and graphic effects?
I say, time frame is real. but, something tells me it will be July 2008