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I love how the author "took just one minute" to check his spelling... *rolls eyes*

Have to love propaganda.
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Old June 28th, 2008, 05:32 PM
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If you think its propaganda, its not. It's a tribute to the soldiers.
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Look at the way the author generalises the population. He seems to think everyone has maids. That everyone gets to eat proper meals every day. That everyone has a warm place to sleep. That everyone is so vain as to take a sick day for a headache. Seriously before you go swallowing stuff like this take a look at the world around you.

I mean, hell, for a lot of the population of America being in the military would be a better situation than to where they already live.

There's a line between the anti and pro war propaganda that is the truth and its a line that is barely ever walked. You get this stuff that praises the troops like Gods and degrades to public as though they are the lowest form of life, and then you get the ones that are just completely 100% against the war.

God, I love media.
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Old June 29th, 2008, 05:12 AM
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Originally Posted by MyNameDidntFit View Post
Look at the way the author generalises the population. He seems to think everyone has maids. That everyone gets to eat proper meals every day. That everyone has a warm place to sleep. That everyone is so vain as to take a sick day for a headache. Seriously before you go swallowing stuff like this take a look at the world around you.

I mean, hell, for a lot of the population of America being in the military would be a better situation than to where they already live.

There's a line between the anti and pro war propaganda that is the truth and its a line that is barely ever walked. You get this stuff that praises the troops like Gods and degrades to public as though they are

God, I love media.

He never says anything about maids, it also says how people think of soldiers, what the person is showing is true, people have it easy while the soldiers are having it hard, and the damn population damns them for protecting them and their freedom, keeping other people save, getting rid of a dictator committing genocide. the lowest form of life, and then you get the ones that are just completely 100% against the war. The damn civilians have it way better than the soldiers, the troops will go days without sleeping, and know one wants to appreciate them for doing their job and protecting their country, instead they go around holding signs saying, praise God for dead soldiers. That was showed in the video, that's a damn fact whether you believe it or not.
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Originally Posted by Leroy View Post
He never says anything about maids,
One of his lines is about how "you all have maids to do your washing and clean your clothes", or something similar.

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it also says how people think of soldiers, what the person is showing is true, people have it easy while the soldiers are having it hard,
Mm, generalising is great. The media shows a hell of a lot more anti-war stuff than they do anything else because they know it will get them ratings. That's that. You can't generalise a whole nation on what you see in the media.

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and the damn population damns them for protecting them and their freedom, keeping other people save, getting rid of a dictator committing genocide. the lowest form of life,
The damn population eh? If the American population didn't support the war then why did the military exceed its expected enrolment quotas?

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The damn civilians have it way better than the soldiers, the troops will go days without sleeping,
Mm, OK, put it this way; would you rather be sleeping outside, on a day that's like 3 degrees Celsius with nothing but the clothes on your back, no money, no family, no friends, no nothing. Or would you rather have the basic essentials that you'd have in the military? At least in the military they know that they have something back home. They will have money, they have a family, they have a home.
Besides, the massive part of society that are in the sort of situation I described above are not there of their own free will, they don't have a choice. Whereas those in the military chose to be there.
If you choose to do something don't expect other people to pity you because it isn't all cushions and glory.

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and know one wants to appreciate them for doing their job and protecting their country, instead they go around holding signs saying, praise God for dead soldiers. That was showed in the video, that's a damn fact whether you believe it or not.
Yeah, well wouldn't you like to know that the group you're referring to is one single family. Yes. One single family, an extremist Christian family. Mmm, and now every single person in the entire USA is being slapped under the same banner no matter what their actual opinions and view on anything are?

So much for fucking freedom, hey Leroy?
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Old June 30th, 2008, 05:12 AM
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Originally Posted by MyNameDidntFit View Post
One of his lines is about how "you all have maids to do your washing and clean your clothes", or something similar.


Mm, generalising is great. The media shows a hell of a lot more anti-war stuff than they do anything else because they know it will get them ratings. That's that. You can't generalise a whole nation on what you see in the media.


The damn population eh? If the American population didn't support the war then why did the military exceed its expected enrolment quotas?


Mm, OK, put it this way; would you rather be sleeping outside, on a day that's like 3 degrees Celsius with nothing but the clothes on your back, no money, no family, no friends, no nothing. Or would you rather have the basic essentials that you'd have in the military? At least in the military they know that they have something back home. They will have money, they have a family, they have a home.
Besides, the massive part of society that are in the sort of situation I described above are not there of their own free will, they don't have a choice. Whereas those in the military chose to be there.
If you choose to do something don't expect other people to pity you because it isn't all cushions and glory.


Yeah, well wouldn't you like to know that the group you're referring to is one single family. Yes. One single family, an extremist Christian family. Mmm, and now every single person in the entire USA is being slapped under the same banner no matter what their actual opinions and view on anything are?

So much for fucking freedom, hey Leroy?

What it boils down to, even if you don't support the war, at least support the troops.
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Right, just ignore everything I've said... Ignorance is bliss eh mate?
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if u dont support the war than support the troops.? that makes no fucking sense troops are fighting war .... oh and theres no such thing as fighting 4 peace. oh and when u talk about the dictator who killed inoccent people ... are u reffering 2 ur own president?
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Old July 1st, 2008, 05:38 PM
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if u dont support the war than support the troops.? that makes no fucking sense troops are fighting war .... oh and theres no such thing as fighting 4 peace. oh and when u talk about the dictator who killed inoccent people ... are u reffering 2 ur own president?
Saddam Hussein, not Bush.
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i still think bush is a stronger danger 2 the free world than saddam oh and leroy y are u skipping everyones points like they dont exist ie: all wat MNDF said.......? are u just going 2 ignoreit like it didnt happen and happy canada day!
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i still think bush is a stronger danger 2 the free world than saddam oh and leroy y are u skipping everyones points like they dont exist ie: all wat MNDF said.......? are u just going 2 ignoreit like it didnt happen and happy canada day!
Bush is a greater danger than Saddam, are you that stupid? A dictator who was killing his own people, and making weapons of mass destruction, which I am referring to Saddam Hussein to a president that did something to stop him - Bush. So you say Bush is a greater threat because he decided to stop a dictator?
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nope .. because hes an idiot....
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nope .. because hes an idiot....
And whys that?
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because he started a war with a dictator not 4 the sake of throwing down a dictator but 4 oil.. and u can say oh yeah where fighting the war in iraq cause we lovee the iraqi people big huggy bunch but y hasnt the united states invaded the republic of congo ,? iran ? becasue they dont have oil .... he also based a war on the fact that they had weapons of mass destruction so leroy do u think a iraq has the rights 2 have weapons of mass destruction?
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because he started a war with a dictator not 4 the sake of throwing down a dictator but 4 oil.. and u can say oh yeah where fighting the war in iraq cause we lovee the iraqi people big huggy bunch but y hasnt the united states invaded the republic of congo ,? iran ? becasue they dont have oil .... he also based a war on the fact that they had weapons of mass destruction so leroy do u think a iraq has the rights 2 have weapons of mass destruction?
Are you really that stupid, we went their for oil, have you seen gas prices go down? We went in their to stop a dictator not get oil. Well then if that's the case, we might as well invade every Middle Eastern country out there. Invading Iraq for oil is a lie.
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Hmm invading for oil is a lie... So by Portal laws that means that invading for oil is cake.

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